China is Dead
Oct. 21st, 2007 Shanghai,古人云﹕「百足之虫﹐死而不僵」。
The ancients had said: “a hundred foot insect dies but does not turn into a corpse.”
A profound revelation:
China is dead, but the Chinese lives on as slavish earthlings.
The Chinese are a second class nation and slaves of their brutal Communist dictators. They are subjects, NOT citizens, of an authoritarian and dictatorial regime.
China is dead, that is the very spark of vitality that gives breath to life of a civilization and ignites the fire of its soul has been extinguished.
China lives on only in the hearts and minds of a small group of people, most of whom, deliberately chose to live in a fashion of civil-ostracism, which is spiritual and physical exile, also known as “civic-death”. It is considered to be the worst kind of fate by the ancient Greeks; therefore Socrates chose death rather than exile.
The official date on the death certificate of China is Oct 1st, 1949. It is a case of regicide, and the culprit is the Chinese themselves. The Chinese has killed China.
Today’s China is nothing but a walking-dead. A facsimile of the real China, who died long ago; a mirage for everyone who still loves China; in short, a cheap copycat.
The question is: "Can China be resurrected? If so, how?"
posted by Dachuxing大楚兴 at
12:39 PM
12 Comments:
well , i like the idea of "中华联邦".But i don't agree with some of your opinions , especially of this post .
CPC did have done many bad things in China. However, former governments never did better than CPC,so it's not right to say: " China is dead on 1949 .
And in fact , what's contradictory is , within China, many people would like to say like " overthrow CPC" or something like that ,but people will support PRC . since PRC as a government standing for China internationally , when foreigners attacks PRC(and seems like attacking China) people tend to regard it as attacks to China .It's also true people like me who are born as citizens of PRC will regard PRC as mother country.I don't like CPC , but i love PRC (really contracdictory? maybe).
So , i propose , to spread the idea of "中华联邦“, you should avoid totally negating PRC because it will get support from few Chinese, which in fact is quite needed for the future of China for" 中华联邦”。It's “意气用事” .
it's a negation of a era which we live through and therefor unacceptable for us. You can't expect someday mainland Chinese will stop being "slavish earthling"(you said, i don't agree) and then they will abandon "PRC" .It's easy for us to negate CPc but hard to totally deny PRC.
So, i hope you can adopt my proposition .
I appreciate your proposition, and since this is a dialectic, I hope everyone reckons the very nature of such discussion as purely formulated on a philosophical and metaphysical ground, since we are talking about abstract ideas such as "China", and when I say she's dead, I don't mean her physical entity (your and many others' idea as PRC) cease to exist in reality.
It looks like you have your logic a bit confused. Granted today that when people say "China", people associate it with PRC, but in actuality it isn't always the case. Before PRC there is a China, and after PRC there will still be a China. And not all Chinese are citizens of PRC, the same idea that not all Jews are citizens of Israeli state.
Since you have brought up that you are born as a citizen of PRC, do you recognize the fact that PRC's citizen does not receive any entitlement other than maybe getting your 户口 and a passport. As a citizen, you are entitled to all fundamental human rights, and participation of the government, which was erected to serve the people. In PRC you have none of that, therefore you cannot call yourself a citizen. Your are subject of the state.
I am not singing praises for the gov't before PRC, and it is a fact that after 1840's China has undergone a consistent stage of decline, but you cannot deny the fact that it was during 1949-79 the Chinese really killed China.
You might not like my words, and in fact, with my type of inflammatory and unyielding recalcitrance I am sure to piss off a lot of people, but again, it is out of my love of the motherland China that has caused my words ever so poignant, for I am just tired of those eulogy of 歌功颂德's bullshit that you're so familiar with all around us, and to me, it's just cheap.
China is dead? the real question we should look for is when was the last time 'China' was alive? Benedict Anderson once said nationalism is an 'imagined' sense of identity, likewise the modern Chinese identity is forged under the umbrella of a pan-Chinese nationalism that was first invented under the early republic, and later united under the historical materialism of communism. Because the very notion of China and of being Chinese is invented, how must we then re-imagine ourselves? Obviously, in the dynastic cycles of Chinese history, our people never truly experienced citizenship or by any means 'civic' governance, therefore in in such a longstanding society based on oppression and cohersion, where do we resurrect to? is it the era of 大汉盛唐? or is it philosophical China based on Confucianism or Taoism? The very term 'China' was created under objective eyes based on the oppressive legacies of the empires of 'Chin', and we the Chinese as the direct inheritance of our past.
Well, I don't quite agree with you when you said "the very notion of China and of being Chinese is invented", because there is a fairly consistent idea of Chinese identity for over 2000 years. This term "中国" first appeared some 2500 years ago, even though for thousands of years, folks tend to categorize themselves as subject of different dynasties, sharing a distinct local culture and dialect, they tend to encompass themselves under the umbrella of "中国", "pan-Chinese" in your term.
What I attempt to convey in my philosophical proposition is that today's "Chinese", ostensibly and conventionally being identified as such, really is the product of the generic Ideology of Marxism/Communism/Stalinism, and as such, ceased to be the "authentic Chinese". Conventional Chinese are really the agent of that very alien sovereign state known as PRC. And I shall add that authentic Chinese is very much composed of traditional character, which the conventional Chinese are devoid of today. Even though they are considered my compatriots, they seem utterly ALIEN to me. This is why I said the Chinese after 1949 killed "China".
As a patriotic and nationalist neo-Chinese, I see that it shall be our obligation to resurrect, or shall we say evoke the soul of China back to her body, that is, our motherland. And I shall also add that I am instinctively sympathetic to those who espouses Constitutional Monarchism in China, not only for its applicability to the "Chinese nature", but also for manifesting a very humanistic disposition that is congruent to the virtues of Chinese culture, and simply very Modern Chinese in Character.
well the consistent idea of being Chinese was based on the Han identity, or ethnic nationalism, rather than civic. I highly doubt the notion of being Chinese was embraced by the other ethnicities, that is of course until the 'pan-Chinese identity' was invented. the term "中国" hardly left "中原" (historical han homelands), and even when it did it was from the Han perspective. A multicultural, equal-status, and all encompassing Chinese identity is still a modern conception. Besides from the han ethnic view, we are haven't experienced rightful rule since the Ming Dynasty, considering the Qing was also a alien group that ruled a ethnic majority as 亡国奴 for practically 200 years
Granted that Yuan and Qing Dynasties are ruled by "foreigners", nevertheless it is still a Chinese country with notably conspicuous Chinese cultural splendors such as 关汉卿 of Yuan and 曹雪芹 of Qing. The same idea goes that throughout some part of history, the Brits had been ruled by the Romans, the Germanic Anglo-Saxons, and the French Normans, they're still very much, Brits.
Secondly, The idea of 中国 (China) was actually forged well before the Qin 秦 unified China proper, let along Han汉。 The concept originated from the clan of 华夏，which kicks off Chinese history. The idea of 华夷之辨 started just a bit after that, and during Confucius' time, it has been widely accepted by all vassals of Zhou Dynasty, albeit a weak one, however the idea of "Chineseness" such as in “子曰：夷狄之有君，不如诸夏之亡也”，was already a strong concept.
As I have said in my previous note, The authentic Chinese virtue and character has not been severed for the past 2000 years even if China was ruled by "foreign nomads" or 分裂 (split up, something PRC subjects are so afraid of lest they gonna become 亡国奴, rather ridiculously) from time to time, nevertheless, it was during the past 100 years that it was gone from a feeble status to a total annihilation during the Cultural Revolution.
Actually you reference to British nationalism is quite similar to the 'pan-Chinese nationalism' considering "British" identity is also a fairly modern concept (there is no such thing as a 'British' identity during roman, saxon, or norman times) that sought to unify the distinct english welsh and scottish identities within the UK. Likewise the notion of being 'Chinese' stem from the greater Huaxia identity that later became the Han identity. And through centuries of Han migration and Sinicization other identities are absorbed and incorporated to form the greater Chinese identity.
My intent was not to argue over the origins of our people but rather to bridge the gap between our present and past identities. It is far too easy to draw upon whatever past nostalgia of our history prior to 1949, without considering what got us here. Chinese history is essentially episodic as well as cyclical. You may be right that 'Chinese virtue and character' or the spirit of being Chinese remain consistent over thousands of years. But it is perhaps exactly this static consistency that gave rise to present China. The ability for China to abolish feudalism so early on and form bureaucratic administration fostered a great sense of comfort that is resistant to change. thus it is quite understandable that political changes in China often fell into 专政主义. Although i hate to say it, over centuries of centralized bureaucratic control may have 奴化 the Chinese populous. For example, we may now praise the Manchu Qing dynasty for its great culture and economic achievements, when the Qing army first entered China and the millions of death the resulted from decades of resistance is considered at first a national humiliation, yet eventually the Chinese willingly submitted to the manchu rule (very much disgraced into wearing the pigtail) for 228 years. Like you said, the Chinese killed themselves. I see the transition from the Qing dynasty into present China as the willingness of the Chinese to submit to foreign authoritarian rule given the fact 马列共匪 are not Chinese.
"Centralized bureaucratic control" is definitely a VICE of Chinese tradition and culture, which has got to be ditched, utterly.
Nevertheless, VIRTUE has to be preserved, today it's DEAD as in the manifestation of the state, so it is only preserved by certain individuals.
In the event that China is to be resurrected in the future post-PRC era, one aspect of it is going to be definitely DECENTRALIZE the current political structure, as in the manifestation of federal and confederate principles, small gov't, a key canon of Conservatism, which is actually akin to feudalism, (something that China has lost by the time of 宋朝), the authentic Chinese character that's got to be preserved.
In other words, the future resurrected China is going to look like a conglomerate sovereign entity of E.U., the U.K, and the U.S. combined. (My hope, but just the "Audacity of Hope", to borrow an Obama line, even though I don't like him.)
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